Goop launched an eponymous podcast this morning, showcasing the soothing, public radio tones of Gwyneth Paltrow’s voice and a super-special inaugural visitor: A Wrinkle in Time star and deity amongst us Oprah Winfrey. The assembly of the 2 trendy thought leaders made for loads of deep dialog about Transcendental Meditation and spirituality—and a few very self-aware jokes. (Winfrey: “When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.” Paltrow, feigning shock: “You do?” Winfrey: “Yeah! Did you hear about that? People are resistant to anything that removes them from their current way of thinking.”)
However the interview additionally took a weighty flip towards the #MeToo motion—within the wake of Winfrey’s blockbuster Golden Globes speech—and each ladies’s experiences with Harvey Weinstein. Maybe nothing ought to shock us anymore, however the multiply-accused Weinstein (who’s reportedly near being arrested by the NYPD) was even so daring as to try to bully Winfrey (!!!). She says the once-powerful producer behind the The Butler used to name her and demand talk-show appearances for stars of his movies.
“What I knew was Harvey was a bully. Was I friendly with Harvey? Yes, I was friendly with Harvey. Of course, I didn’t know any of this was going on,” stated Winfrey. “I think where this movement will eventually lead us to is not accepting any kind of behavior that disparages you as a human being. Why am I willing to put up with an asshole? Not only am I not going to take your sexual harassment, I’m not going to take any of your bullshit, period.” This, women and gents and gender nonconforming individuals, is why Oprah is Oprah.
True to type, Winfrey couldn’t resist momentarily taking part in interviewer, asking Paltrow if the revelations about Weinstein had been “triggering” for her, primarily based on her lengthy working relationship with him at Miramax (which produced Paltrow’s Oscar-winning flip in Shakespeare in Love) and her personal story in The New York Occasions, wherein she stated Weinstein lied about having intercourse along with her as an “assault weapon” to entrap different actresses.
“I didn’t feel safe to do it, but I felt a responsibility to do it,” Paltrow advised Winfrey of coming ahead. “He was a bully about work things, he was shaming, and he was really hard on me, and then was very generous and would send me a private plane somewhere. It was a typical abusive relationship.” Sharing her story, she added, has “brought up a lot of abuse from my own childhood, which I haven’t reconciled” and has made her surprise if she left performing, partially, over Weinstein’s bullying. “I all the time advised myself the story, ‘I lost the passion for it, I’m undecided why, after which I had my daughter and I needed to be dwelling.’ And now I’m attempting to place the items collectively and suppose: Did this outstanding relationship in my skilled life lead me to not wish to do it anymore?”
It’s no surprise Paltrow jokes—or is presumably completely severe?—on the finish of the podcast that she has cried 4 instances in the course of the episode. She proves to be an incredible listener and naturally considerate and humorous interviewer (Winfrey: “I live in a place that’s like a park to me, with oak trees surrounded by flower gardens.” Paltrow: “I think it’s kind of a shithole”). The pair even “go there” on why Winfrey by no means had youngsters. Can this be a daily pairing, beginning with a crossover episode on Winfrey’s SuperSoul podcast?